Ostap fucked up.
By this statement I will inform the whole community that most of the 42 amsterdam server administrators stepped down from the roster list (including BoyZyator, Zeo and myself as many other people who left by their own after Ostap started to protect cheaters).
Creating a place where people could play, and not "etablishing themselves" was the path Ostap chosen by leaving the "imbecils" that we were, here, on the GameZone24.net forums in order to create 42 Amsterdam. Building a team of administrators from our forums made, accorded to him, a "little corrupted empire".
Let's recall that the entire mess took place once an admin banned a certain "MrAlex" for aimboting on public servers. While Ostap didn't see any aim bot in this video, he decided to take down BoyZyator and Zeo and protecting MrAlex by masking him from all server histories so that we couldn't find and ban him anymore.
Following arguing with every single other administrator from his team, Ostap went insane and decided to remove most of us (if not everyone).
From the beginning to the end, the administrator team hasn't ceased to make the servers a safer and a better place, so that everyone, every player could benefit of an optimal comfort and gaming experience. We did our job well, and I will never allow anyone to take this away from us. Having the audacity to pretend that we, or anyone of us, didn't do anything, would be pure heresy.
Certain people like BoyZyator and Zeo invested themselves, gave all their time, energy and determination to keep the rest of the community active and alive, yet they did much more than anyone else would have. Ostap chosen to believe "his own coding skills" and ignored people who played the game at a high competitive level for numerous years. He will have to assume it.
I will also note that the 42 amsterdam servers are no longer a safe place to play on, as Ostap (if being the last remaining admin) is simply not competent. Do not count on the 42 a'dam's support anymore for any eventual GameZone24.net event or tournament.
I would like to thank every single person that is, or was an administrator of these servers, especially the following people who were the major contributors: Raver; Petar; Tiho; Karel; Alex; Never Surrender; Titi Titus Pullo; Hero; Oben; Glass Lady; Click; Black Spirit; BoyZyator, Zeo; Angelo and myself.
I took the liberty to include a part of a Skype log chat, just so people can see.. how Ostap is actually the one who plays the "little king" in his own little world. The point was to keep the game as much alive as possible, but he will be the one to knockout it once for all.
Even for those who doesn't want to read, please give a look to the bold replies.
SPOILER :
[31/12/2015 08:05:30] Alexandre: and god dammit stopt saying that i'm dronk
i've tollerated it as a jock for some while ...now its enough
i'm not ...
[31/12/2015 16:41:53] Bert Incognito \m/: what in gods name has happened now
[31/12/2015 17:04:31] Bert Incognito \m/: ostap, to be honest, we all thought the whole situation had been resolved and normalized
[31/12/2015 17:04:42] Bert Incognito \m/: it isn't sakke's fault to restore zeo
[31/12/2015 17:04:59] Bert Incognito \m/: it could've been me too
[31/12/2015 17:05:17] Bert Incognito \m/: he's a good administrator and cares alot about this game
[31/12/2015 17:05:31] Bert Incognito \m/: removing him doesn't solve anything
[31/12/2015 17:32:57] Janey Zeo: Ostap, you've forgot to delete me from this conservation : )
well, it was a good time when me & Sakke could organize tourneys, observe cheaters and so on, and so as it's ended I'd like to thank everyone who voted for me, seems like banning Mr. Alex (a cheater in game and a trasher in forum) still wasn't a right thing to do; it's not my servers, so I can't decide. by this move you destroyed another part of activity, so ... farewell & Happy 2016, have a good time (party)
[31/12/2015 17:51:20] Bert Incognito \m/: i think i'm going to keep myself out of this mess
[31/12/2015 17:51:25] Bert Incognito \m/: gg
[01/01/2016 03:53:04] Anastasia: ow... sakke and zeo are again removed?
[01/01/2016 03:53:40] Anastasia: Aleksandre, I think you misunderstand something, and this should be talked around in here. Really...
[01/01/2016 03:53:53] Anastasia:
[01/01/2016 17:16:41] Bert Incognito \m/: ostap, are you here?
[01/01/2016 19:24:27] Bert Incognito \m/: stop fcking banning respected players and then leaving for 2 or more days
[01/01/2016 19:24:29] Bert Incognito \m/: GG
[01/01/2016 22:16:09] Alexandre: happy new year to all too ...
whats the GG stands for ?
[01/01/2016 22:17:20] Alexandre: good go ?
[01/01/2016 22:17:23] Bert Incognito \m/: no no
[01/01/2016 22:17:26] Bert Incognito \m/: good game
[01/01/2016 22:17:40] Bert Incognito \m/: i just.... don't understand what you're doing
[01/01/2016 22:20:01] Bert Incognito \m/: have you read what i messaged you on skype?
[01/01/2016 22:20:22] Alexandre: when i created samtrack ...
I fought for it on GZ ...and eventually left coz it was a bunch of prejutice imbaciles
aftrer ...i've created 42forurm ...and tried to keep it the way that it will never be like GZ
it seems i've failed ... - I've admins that are so full of them self that they forgot what the game is about .... to play ...and not to establish your self
[01/01/2016 22:21:21] Bert Incognito \m/: i assume you're talking about boyzator and zeo...
[01/01/2016 22:21:30] Alexandre: i'm
[01/01/2016 22:22:21] Bert Incognito \m/: why are you ignoring the fact then, that they've created countless frag tourneys trying to make the game more active
[01/01/2016 22:23:04 | Modifié (22:23:11)] Bert Incognito \m/: boyzator has been like a perfect admin in my opinion since the beginning...
[01/01/2016 22:23:23] Alexandre: i was warned once ..and twice ...and more times by raver not to include him ... but i ignored it ....
now its the time to set things right ...
[01/01/2016 22:23:36] Bert Incognito \m/: i now have to go, which is unfortunate, but will return in about 40-50min
[01/01/2016 22:25:09] Alexandre: none of them will come back ...thats my final decision ...
[01/01/2016 22:28:40] Alexandre: Democrasy does not work in this case ... i've build a corrupt mini empire ...and i'm sorry for that ...
I will dismantle it ... admins that do nothing will be removed
Even if i will be left with nobody - so be it ...but i will not be pushed by "if you remove him i'll leave ...and you'll have nobody"
[01/01/2016 22:30:13] Alexandre: thats @metali...
[00:09:23] Bert Incognito \m/: [vendredi 1 janvier 2016 22:24] Alexandre:
<<< none of them will come back ...thats my final decision ...
[00:09:58] Alexandre: you got something against that ?
[00:10:57] Alexandre: as i said - every one is free to leave ...
[00:11:55] Alexandre: boyzy tried it few tiemes ...and eventually - he triggered the switch
[00:12:20] Alexandre: i will not be persuaded by force
[00:12:28] Anastasia: [00:08] Alexandre:
<<< yes ...it is allowed...wy not ...
why sholdnt it ?kinda can come back to the same lvl, favourite one, or most easy one, and thus gain score
[00:13:04 | Modifié (00:13:21)] Anastasia: But since its allowed, I'll skip "alley", if I'll be alone at the server
[00:14:05] Bert Incognito \m/: [00:11] Alexandre:
<<< i will not be persuaded by forcehet enige wat ik wou, en nog steeds wil, is een normaal gesprek zonder dat daar dreiging van een ban of iets in die aard moet bij te pas komen
[00:14:28] Anastasia: [00:11] Alexandre:
<<< boyzy tried it few tiemes ...and eventually - he triggered the switchthe last time boyzy was simply the most free one to add zeo back. Anyone could do that, we ALL here thought that the whole issue with removing zeo is solved
[00:14:33] Alexandre: we'll have that ...after the event
[00:15:04] Bert Incognito \m/: [00:13] Anastasia:
<<< [0:11] Alexandre:
<<< boyzy tried it few tiemes ...and eventually - he triggered the switchAlexandre, Today 0:11the last time boyzy was simply the most free one to add zeo back. Anyone could do that, we ALL here thought that the whole issue with removing zeo is solvedthis is 100% the truth
[00:15:16] Anastasia: We did not even have discussion about NOT including zeo back, everybody were ok with that
[00:16:08] Anastasia: jeez... mrAlex is such a prick... SUCH A LIAR, really... I dont get why banning him had such consequenses
[00:16:51] Alexandre: mr alex is not an issue here ... he is a catalistator
[00:17:03] Anastasia: mhm...
[00:17:39] Bert Incognito \m/: what I, and I think most of us here do not understand, is what exactly is it that disturbs you so much about boyzator and zeo
[00:18:06] Bert Incognito \m/: you've mentioned a few times earlier of something that took place in 2 0 1 0
[00:18:26] Bert Incognito \m/: you talk about it like it happened yesterday
[00:19:48] Bert Incognito \m/: versta je wat ik wil zeggen, alexander?
[00:20:05 | Modifié (00:21:08)] Anastasia: I dont know if zeo really deserved to be removed. To be honest, I simply dont know all details of that old issue.. But Sakke - well at least THIS time he did not really have the fault. The whole decision about adding zeo back was discussed here and believed to be fine to do...
[00:20:40] Alexandre: [00:17] Bert Incognito \m/:
<<< is what exactly is it that disturbs you so much about boyzator and zeonot today
[00:21:06] Bert Incognito \m/: you said this the day before christmas (?) too
[00:21:09] Alexandre: i've no desire to have this conversation
[00:22:46] Alexandre: from now on - i will deside what i will talk about and what i will not talk about
screw the world
[00:23:04] Alexandre: kapish ?
[00:23:05 | Modifié (00:23:29)] Bert Incognito \m/: but what happened needs your talking
[00:23:22] Anastasia: kapish...
[00:23:41] Anastasia: add sakke back )) he did nothing wrong this time ))
[00:24:36] Bert Incognito \m/: so you mean us to just do nothing
[00:24:36] Alexandre: i'll leave you now ..with your questions
coz you just ignoerd what i just said
[00:24:50 | Modifié (00:24:59)] Bert Incognito \m/: i did not ignore you ( ! )
[00:24:52] Anastasia: boohoo
[00:24:58] Anastasia: me neither
[00:25:23] Alexandre: there is just 7 hours left on my joirney ... to finish all lord of the rings movies
[00:25:40] Anastasia: where are you? not at home?
[00:25:57] Bert Incognito \m/: he's watching the lotr trilogy now.
[00:26:01] Alexandre: i'm at home and i'm enjoying my self and my movies
[00:26:11] Alexandre: and my bier
[00:26:14] Alexandre: and my whiskey
[00:26:37] Bert Incognito \m/: it seems to be more important than trying to have a meaningful discussion with your superadmins.
[00:26:56] Anastasia: I guess he is tired of our nagging
[00:26:57] Alexandre: [00:26] Bert Incognito \m/:
<<< it seems to be more important than trying to have a meaningful discussion with your superadmins.
YES ...
[00:27:49] Alexandre: I guess he is tired of our nagging
i'll nagg you later...but for now ...leave me alone
[00:28:38] Alexandre: plz
[00:28:39] Anastasia: skaal )
[00:55:11] Bert Incognito \m/: >watching lotr with booze is more important than this discussion
[00:56:31] Alexandre: lol ... did i just step on your cat tale ?
[00:56:49] Bert Incognito \m/: that's a question i should ask you
[00:57:33] Alexandre: i'm now imune to all that crap
[00:58:07] Bert Incognito \m/: what is this chat to you now
[00:58:15] Alexandre: nothing
[00:58:34] Bert Incognito \m/: why don't you disband it then
[00:58:51] Alexandre: i will ... in its time
[00:59:26] Bert Incognito \m/: so you're saying it doesn't matter if i berate you now or not, you're going to delete the superadmin chat anyway
[00:59:45] Bert Incognito \m/: is da we ge bedoelt
[01:01:29] Alexandre: i mean no one will be spared from deletion ... no one who did nothing but used they powers to establish them self ...
[01:02:00] Alexandre: and 2 already gone
[01:02:01] Bert Incognito \m/: and ofcourse you alone will decide that right
[01:02:11] Alexandre: absolutely
[01:02:47] Alexandre: in this case - i'm the bad mother fucker
[01:03:06] Bert Incognito \m/: you probably also have a wallet with 'bad motherfucker' on it right
[01:03:18] Bert Incognito \m/: da's een pulp fiction referentie voor alle duidelijkheid
[01:03:46] Alexandre: no ... i just want this to run ...and not to exists
[01:03:58] Bert Incognito \m/: you do realize you've just changed all the rules right
[01:04:17] Alexandre: as i noted before ...i've created a corrupt system ... i will kill it
[01:04:36] Bert Incognito \m/: what point does a superadmin position have, if you just can "" delete us all "" in a whim
[01:04:47] Bert Incognito \m/: every superadmin
[01:04:53] Bert Incognito \m/: i can say this with confidence
[01:05:11] Bert Incognito \m/: thinks this not a corrupt system
[01:05:47] Alexandre: [01:03] Bert Incognito \m/:
<<< what point does a superadmin position have, if you just can "" delete us all "
I gave you all rights ...and you all failed ... miserably
[01:05:57] Bert Incognito \m/: oh really
[01:06:00] Bert Incognito \m/: i failed miserably
[01:06:15] Alexandre: not yu personally
[01:06:16] Bert Incognito \m/: give me at least one fucking example where i did that
[01:06:33] Bert Incognito \m/: stop talking in generality and get down to business (just a suggestion)
[01:06:52] Bert Incognito \m/: "corrupt" "failed miserably" are not small words
[01:06:59] Alexandre: i'm talking in general ...
[01:07:08] Bert Incognito \m/: that's all you've done!
[01:07:11] Alexandre: coz im dismanteling all admins ...
[01:07:16] Alexandre: not only you
[01:07:26] Bert Incognito \m/: you've insulted us badly
[01:07:38] Anastasia: its not corrupt. Why corrupt? it was a team decision. TEAM WORK, a united solution.
[01:07:42] Bert Incognito \m/: now you're going to dismantle everything
[01:07:45] Alexandre: i know .
[01:07:53] Bert Incognito \m/: did you read it
[01:07:55] Bert Incognito \m/: ostap
[01:08:02] Bert Incognito \m/: the reasoning behind our decision?
[01:08:13] Bert Incognito \m/: petar, C, alex, anastasia, sakke and me
[01:08:49] Bert Incognito \m/: Did you?!
[01:09:09] Anastasia: We wished you were there back then too, Alexandre.
[01:09:15] Anastasia: You were away
[01:09:28] Bert Incognito \m/: [01:08] Anastasia:
<<< We wished you were there back then too, Alexandre.that goes without saying ofcourse
[01:10:08] Anastasia: it felt very right and nice to unite the good team back, and include all superadmins back, because we value each other and appreciate each other
[01:10:16] Alexandre: i've not said i'll remove you or petar or C ...
i said i'm dismanteling the admins of 42 ...
sakke is the first . i've made my decision ... zeo will also not be a part
[01:11:24] Bert Incognito \m/: to dismantle
[01:11:28] Alexandre: means
[01:11:30] Bert Incognito \m/: to destroy (something) in an orderly way : to gradually cause (something) to come to an end
[01:11:35] Alexandre: to remove from the top
[01:11:43] Bert Incognito \m/: that's your definition
[01:11:46] Bert Incognito \m/: not the dictionary
[01:11:59] Bert Incognito \m/: i'll tell you what it means
[01:12:10] Anastasia: yeah, I also had to look in the dict. to see the meaning :$
[01:12:56] Alexandre: [01:10] Bert Incognito \m/:
<<< to destroy (something) in an orderly way : to gradually cause (something) to come to an end
in your point of view ... from where i'm - i'm removing a cancer
[01:13:08] Bert Incognito \m/: Sakke did a good job as a superadmin and your only reason to remove him was because he agreed with Zeo.
[01:13:18] Bert Incognito \m/: You prevented a free discussion.
[01:13:39] Bert Incognito \m/: This is a fucking chat, not a place were you're giving orders, we have the forum for that
[01:13:46] Anastasia: I didnt feel that Sakke tried to be higher than others by adding zeo back. Do you mean that you would like to remove those who think they can decide more than others?
[01:14:20] Bert Incognito \m/: [01:12] Bert Incognito \m/:
<<< Sakke did a good job as a superadmin and your only reason to remove him was because he agreed with Zeo.And I say this because you REFUSE to explain it any further, so that's how I perceive it.
[01:14:26] Alexandre: sakke did nothing ... sorry ...
and i'm not up...once again to discuss who did wot...
[01:15:32] Anastasia: hm... I guess tomorrow some other SA can be thrown out for editing a server or rebooting smth
[01:16:37] Anastasia: hm
[01:17:01] Alexandre: glassy ...stay away of this ... my advice ...
[01:17:12] Anastasia: rawr... I thought so )
[01:17:32] Bert Incognito \m/: [01:16] Alexandre:
<<< glassy ...stay away of this ... my advice ...yeah, just dodge what i've said
[01:18:14] Alexandre: [01:16] Bert Incognito \m/:
<<< yeah, just dodge what i've saidwhat did you say ?
[01:18:24] Bert Incognito \m/: doe es moeite om te scrollen aub
[01:18:33] Bert Incognito \m/: [1:12] Bert Incognito:
<<< Sakke did a good job as a superadmin and your only reason to remove him was because he agreed with Zeo.Bert Incognito, Today 1:12And I say this because you REFUSE to explain it any further, so that's how I perceive it.
[01:19:28] Alexandre: [01:17] Bert Incognito \m/:
<<< Sakke did a good job as a superadmin and your only reason to remove him was because he agreed with Zeo.Bert Incognito, no dude
[01:19:57] Alexandre: i think we are back to the zero point
[01:20:19] Bert Incognito \m/: ffs
[01:20:25] Bert Incognito \m/: wat ik daarna zei is van belang
[01:20:42] Alexandre: lat me met rust jo ..
[01:21:00] Alexandre: we'll talk after the event
[01:21:23] Bert Incognito \m/: je bent nu hele tijd aant chatten man, licht dan es de tip van de sluier op
[01:21:50] Alexandre: nop... i'll just watch my lotr
[01:21:57] Bert Incognito \m/: nee man
[01:22:00] Alexandre: it is more important ]
[01:22:04] Bert Incognito \m/: geef godverdomme es een uitleg
[01:22:11] Alexandre: rot op]
[01:22:14] Bert Incognito \m/: gwn belachelijk hoe jij doet nu
[01:22:45] Anastasia: jeez i even understand it
[01:22:55] Bert Incognito \m/: niets van uitleg, gewoon mensen vernederen en zeveren over corruptie en miserabele mislukingen
[01:23:24] Anastasia: guys, lets sleep well and be back to this later
[01:23:29] Anastasia: dont get mad
[01:23:36] Bert Incognito \m/: de enige reden waarom ik hier superadmin ben geworden is om de community te helpen en verrijken
[01:24:10] Bert Incognito \m/: de enige reden waarom ik hier superadmin ben geworden is om de community te helpen en verrijken= the only reason i became a superadmin here is to help the community and "enrich" it
[01:24:23] Alexandre: [01:22] Bert Incognito \m/:
<<< om de community te helpen en verrijkentrust me .. me too ...but fuck it ... i'm watching lotr
[01:25:22] Anastasia: we can talk later, really. The whole thing can wait to the end of lotr. Ostap wants rest, Bert needs it too. Its fine, guys, we'll find the common points later
[01:28:15] Bert Incognito \m/: fuck this chat then, fuck your lotr and fuck your pathetic decisions in particular, I hope it ends well, and by ending well i mean you'll stand alone in this
The irony of it all, you already stand alone in the decisions you've taken. You just don't realize it yet, but i guess you while in due time
Thanks for nothing, damaging the community like this (puke)
[01:28:27] *** Bert Incognito \m/ est parti ***
[01:28:53] Alexandre: pussy
[01:29:57] Anastasia: :| nihrena nichego horoshego v etom net
[01:31:04] Anastasia: Bert and Sakke were really a very good driving force of ss community
[01:31:14] Anastasia: I think its a huge loss, really
[01:33:55] Alexandre: i doubt it
[01:34:55] Alexandre: i've admins that are just admins ... like kings ...that are just kings
[01:35:38] Alexandre: i'm ending it
[01:37:06] Alexandre: i maybe wrong ...but i'm ending it ...
[01:37:08] Anastasia: Та ну, Саш... зря...
Да и когда команда срабатывается - это большое дело. Раздрая внутри вроде не было, все наоборот сплотились на том моменте в добавлении админов назад. Жаль тебя не было в тот момент, глядишь сейчас бы всё было не так.
[01:37:56] Alexandre: ne ponimaesh ti ... - ja sozdal mafiu ... protiv kotoroi ja sam borolsia ...
mafia pro igrokov ...
[01:38:19] Alexandre: ja ee shas sam ubiu
[01:38:50] Alexandre: eto ne horoshaja komanda... tebe tak kazhetsia
[01:42:47] Alexandre: pust menia vse viniat ...no ja eto zakonchu
[01:44:08] Anastasia: Я бы очень хотела понять тебя до конца, но лучше не сегодня, лучше смотри властелина колец, утро вечера мудренее. Тебе когда на работу? В понедельник?
[01:44:20] Alexandre: indeed
[02:04:26] Anastasia: надеюсь в воскресенье Берт вернется и тогда все поговорим. Бля, ну не Берта же еще в добавок к Сакке и Зео?
[02:04:54] Alexandre: bert tut ne prichem
[02:06:07] Anastasia: да, но у него случился батхёрт, чувство несправедливости и всё такое. Надеюсь он хоть останется.
[02:06:09] Alexandre: smeagol tolkoshto ubil svoego brata
[02:06:29] Anastasia: Шмыга )))
[02:06:37] Anastasia: так по-моему в переводе гоблина было ))
[02:07:13] Anastasia: надо пересмотреть )) мне Властелин Колец только в нем нравится, не так чувствуется затянутость
[02:07:55] Alexandre: https://ostap.eu/357JF074.png
[02:08:37] Anastasia: ага
[02:08:42] Anastasia: третья часть, по-моему?
[02:08:50] Alexandre: da..
[02:09:17] Anastasia: ладно, смотри )) я пойду уже, дрыхнуть пора
[02:09:23] Alexandre: ku
[02:09:26] Anastasia: ку
[06:10:20] Alexandre: screw anyone ... i just did the lord of the rings marathon ....
18 hours movies ......in 2 days
[06:15:56] Alexandre: ah ...forgot ..... i banned everyone ... crap ....
still - screw everyone
[15:06:48] کkyward - Donovan: Ostap
[15:07:52] کkyward - Donovan: Serious sam is dead, and your system is nothing else but a bunch of ghost servers, you chose the wrong path, now assume it. I leave aswell.