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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexHF View Post
    That is, you prefer to get sick yourself and infect others, which may lead to the death of some of them. Do I understand you correctly?


    but ..but ...If you do take the vaccine ...wouldn't you be impervious to the virus ?

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    And that is ofcoz if we'll consider for a minute - that virus is real

    Sorry for Russian - but this is so far the only good explanation
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    no worry ...translated
    now everyone can read it:


    1.
    - Mag ik stoppen met het dragen van een masker?
    - Nee
    2.
    - Kunnen we het bedrijf heropenen en normaal werken?
    - Nee
    3.
    - Zal ik immuun zijn voor covid?
    'Misschien, maar we weten het niet zeker.
    4.
    - Zal ik tenminste niet meer besmettelijk zijn voor anderen?
    - Het hangt ervan af, niemand weet het.
    5.
    - Als we alle kinderen vaccineren, gaat de school dan verder?
    - Nee
    6.
    - Als ik me laat vaccineren, kan ik dan mijn sociale afstand niet volgen?
    - Nee
    7.
    - Als ik me laat vaccineren, mag ik dan stoppen met het desinfecteren van mijn handen elke 5 minuten?
    - Nee
    8.
    - Kunnen we elkaar knuffelen als ik mezelf en mijn grootvader vaccineer?
    - Nee
    9.
    - En de gevaccineerden kunnen zich verzamelen?
    - Nee
    10.
    - Wat zijn de echte voordelen van vaccinatie?
    - Het virus zal je niet doden.
    11.
    'Weet je zeker dat hij me niet zal vermoorden?'
    - Nee
    12.
    - Als ik al ziek ben en niet ben overleden, waarom moet ik dan worden ingeŽnt?
    - Om anderen te beschermen.
    13.
    - Dus als ik gevaccineerd word, is de rest er 100% zeker van dat ik ze niet besmet?
    - Nee
    14.
    - Als we allemaal ziek waren, zouden we dan van nature kudde-immuniteit ontwikkelen?
    - Nee, alleen dankzij het vaccin gedijt de kudde.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexHF View Post
    Currently, 9 vaccines have been approved by the World Health Organization. These are different types of vaccines. There are vaccines that directly introduce genetic information into the cell using matrix RNA. These are the BNT162b2 vaccines from the German BioNTech, the Chinese Fosun Pharma, the American Pfizer and mRNA-1273 from Moderna and NIAID. In addition, there are vaccines that use the Non-Replicating Viral Vector platform. As of January 2021, the approved vaccines of this type are the British Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID - 19 vaccine, the Russian Sputnik V and the Chinese Convidicea. If you are wary of vaccines manipulating genetic information, then there is an alternative choice. These include vaccines that are an inactivated virus. These are Chinese BBIBP-CorV, CoronaVac, Indian Covaxin (BBV152). These vaccines, in principle, cannot intentionally affect human reproductive function in any way, since the virus itself does not have such effect. In addition, there are WHO-approved vaccine that represent a set of recombinant protein peptide agents. As of January 2021, the only approved vaccine of this type is the Russian peptide vaccine EpiVacCorona.
    it is the WHOs job to protect and warn the world population, but they did nothing when we had ebola and they said at the beginning of the COVID 19 pandemy it is harmless... (source: wikipedia, WHO's twitterpost)

    there are actual no successes from this organisation. AT ALL. And nothing justifies a waste of 5 000 000 000€ yearly income

    actually 80% of their income is "voluntarily" from private organisations which ofc do that for the matter of help poor people and not to get tax freed XD


    it is very naive to trust the WHO...

    on the other hand i am a shareholer of Bayer, Pfizer and Moderna - as for myself i am sceptic about their stuff

    it doesnt mean i will never take their vaccine, i am just being sceptic


    also nobody can tell me about biontechs "random" ipo just 6 months before the pandemy started

    i am getting huge profits from the pandemy so at least for me there is no reason to complain


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    Quote Originally Posted by AmcoTraD View Post
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    i am getting huge profits from the pandemy so at least for me there is no reason to complain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ostap View Post


    but ..but ...If you do take the vaccine ...wouldn't you be impervious to the virus ?
    All permitted vaccinations give an effectiveness against infection of more than 90 % and 100% protect against the severe course of the disease



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ostap View Post
    And that is ofcoz if we'll consider for a minute - that virus is real

    Sorry for Russian - but this is so far the only good explanation
    Take a look :

    https://www.yaplakal.com/forum7/topic2218333.html


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    I'm sorry, but what you quoted is a set of false fabrications and distortions. Where are the facts and evidence? And they are not. Meanwhile, vaccines have been tested on many tens of thousands of people in many countries using scientifically based methods. This is a real fact and a real proof. And yes, in Moscow, for example, there are very few restrictions for business and they are canceled from February 8 and 11. There are only restrictions for unvaccinated people over 60 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexHF View Post
    I'm sorry, but what you quoted is a set of false fabrications and distortions. Where are the facts and evidence? And they are not. Meanwhile, vaccines have been tested on many tens of thousands of people in many countries using scientifically based methods. This is a real fact and a real proof. And yes, in Moscow, for example, there are very few restrictions for business and they are canceled from February 8 and 11. There are only restrictions for unvaccinated people over 60 years old.



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    Quote Originally Posted by AmcoTraD View Post
    it is the WHOs job to protect and warn the world population, but they did nothing when we had ebola and they said at the beginning of the COVID 19 pandemy it is harmless... (source: wikipedia, WHO's twitterpost)
    1)Official tasks of WHO:
    providing international recommendations in the field of health
    setting health standards
    cooperation with national Governments to strengthen national health programmes
    development and transfer of appropriate technologies, information and health standards.

    I consider these opportunities a great achievement of modern civilization.

    2) We didn't have Ebola. Ebola haemorrhagic fever is a severe, often fatal disease in humans. But rare. Outside of Africa, the disease was only found in laboratory accidents. The transmission rate of this disease is low. You need direct contact of your mucous membrane or wound surfaces with the fluids of another person. The disease, of course, is dangerous, the death rate from it is high, but it does not pose a global epidemic threat.

    3)At the beginning of the Covid-19 epidemic, there were many strange and even stupid statements. This is explained very simply, people did not have enough knowledge about the new disease. In order for this knowledge to appear, it took time, and, unfortunately, considerable human sacrifices around the world.

    QUOTE=AmcoTraD;1276451] there are actual no successes from this organisation. AT ALL. And nothing justifies a waste of 5 000 000 000€ yearly income [/QUOTE]

    You surprise me, dear Amco! If there are officials (bureaucrat) and a lot of big money, there is bound to have corruption. This cannot be undone, it can only be reduced.

    QUOTE=AmcoTraD;1276451]
    it is very naive to trust the WHO... [/QUOTE]



    This world is not black and white at all, it is filled with colors and shades. The fact that some officials in the WHO are simply stealing the budget does not negate the existence of extremely important functions for this organization.


    QUOTE=AmcoTraD;1276451]

    on the other hand i am a shareholer of Bayer, Pfizer and Moderna - as for myself i am sceptic about their stuff

    it doesnt mean i will never take their vaccine, i am just being sceptic

    [/QUOTE]

    The main thing is facts and rational thinking. The main thing is facts and rational thinking. There is a disease that poses a threat due to its rather high contagiousness and severe course in many patients. It is dangerous because of its combination of qualities. In the event of an uncontrolled spread of the epidemic can cause very serious damage to the global economy. And I've already done it. If certain measures had not been taken, including unpopular measures of a prohibitive nature, things would have been even worse. and the number of deaths would be many times greater and the damage to the economy would also be much greater. This fact is confirmed by the consensus of epidemiologists in all developed countries. There is a group of vaccines developed by very qualified specialists. These vaccines are able to stop the spread of infection. These vaccines are harmless to the absolute majority of people. This is also a fact confirmed by scientifically based tests. And there is already a confirmed fact that the immunity produced by vector, mRNK, and peptide vaccines is much more stable than that obtained in the case of a previous disease. And yes, I personally admire the technology of matrix vaccines, this is actually not today's day, but tomorrow's day of science.


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    also nobody can tell me about biontechs "random" ipo just 6 months before the pandemy started

    i am getting huge profits from the pandemy so at least for me there is no reason to complain [/QUOTE]

    BioNTech and Moderna began to develop the technology itself really about 1.5-2 years ago. As a universal platform, suitable for the manufacture of many others vaccines or the treatment of dangerous diseases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexHF View Post
    1)Official tasks of WHO:
    providing international recommendations in the field of health
    setting health standards
    cooperation with national Governments to strengthen national health programmes
    development and transfer of appropriate technologies, information and health standards.

    I consider these opportunities a great achievement of modern civilization.

    2) We didn't have Ebola. Ebola haemorrhagic fever is a severe, often fatal disease in humans. But rare. Outside of Africa, the disease was only found in laboratory accidents. The transmission rate of this disease is low. You need direct contact of your mucous membrane or wound surfaces with the fluids of another person. The disease, of course, is dangerous, the death rate from it is high, but it does not pose a global epidemic threat.

    3)At the beginning of the Covid-19 epidemic, there were many strange and even stupid statements. This is explained very simply, people did not have enough knowledge about the new disease. In order for this knowledge to appear, it took time, and, unfortunately, considerable human sacrifices around the world.

    there are actual no successes from this organisation. AT ALL. And nothing justifies a waste of 5 000 000 000€ yearly income

    You surprise me, dear Amco! If there are officials (bureaucrat) and a lot of big money, there is bound to have corruption. This cannot be undone, it can only be reduced.




    This world is not black and white at all, it is filled with colors and shades. The fact that some officials in the WHO are simply stealing the budget does not negate the existence of extremely important functions for this organization.




    on the other hand i am a shareholer of Bayer, Pfizer and Moderna - as for myself i am sceptic about their stuff

    it doesnt mean i will never take their vaccine, i am just being sceptic


    The main thing is facts and rational thinking. The main thing is facts and rational thinking. There is a disease that poses a threat due to its rather high contagiousness and severe course in many patients. It is dangerous because of its combination of qualities. In the event of an uncontrolled spread of the epidemic can cause very serious damage to the global economy. And I've already done it. If certain measures had not been taken, including unpopular measures of a prohibitive nature, things would have been even worse. and the number of deaths would be many times greater and the damage to the economy would also be much greater. This fact is confirmed by the consensus of epidemiologists in all developed countries. There is a group of vaccines developed by very qualified specialists. These vaccines are able to stop the spread of infection. These vaccines are harmless to the absolute majority of people. This is also a fact confirmed by scientifically based tests. And there is already a confirmed fact that the immunity produced by vector, mRNK, and peptide vaccines is much more stable than that obtained in the case of a previous disease. And yes, I personally admire the technology of matrix vaccines, this is actually not today's day, but tomorrow's day of science.


    also nobody can tell me about biontechs "random" ipo just 6 months before the pandemy started

    i am getting huge profits from the pandemy so at least for me there is no reason to complain

    calm down jeez...
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    I doubt anyone will have their own choice to pick the vaccine from the company they want or the type of vaccine they want to take. Pfizer actually has a dark history when it comes to their products (including massive compensations for affected people). Second of all, covid ain't as harmful as Ebola, Sars from 2003 (afair) or the H5N1 rom 2008 or 2009 (afair) so when we take all the things into consideration, it turns out it's still better to wait for a "facelifting" of the vaccine and also track what's gonna happen in the upcoming months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeLLspAWn View Post
    .... track what's gonna happen in the upcoming months.


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    I still think that's a bad joke, I mean the virus is real but the fear of it is just hilarious. Not even gonna write any long books about, and I gotta agree to Privas post.

    But I'm also having a profit of it and the "pandemy" has showed an unique experience, cannot wait for new pandemies, hopefully such dangerous
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeo View Post
    I still think that's a bad joke, I mean the virus is real but the fear of it is just hilarious. Not even gonna write any long books about, and I gotta agree to Privas post.

    But I'm also having a profit of it and the "pandemy" has showed an unique experience, cannot wait for new pandemies, hopefully such dangerous
    my friend had covid, he told me that it's not so bad as everyone is talking about, just like any other flu but a little bit worse... 2 weeks and he is all right again
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    im sick of all this lockdown shite... Ireland was less locked down from March-August then it became from October-Now. However now somehow we have more cases in about 3 months that we had in 6 months? Nowdays anyone who has any sickness and goes to hospital about it is put as a COVID case even if they dont have it and if you survived a little cold or flu you are put down as COVID Survivor on the statistic I tell you one thing for a fact, if I get COVID I will not go into the fucking hospital fuck that and all that shit, ill stack on some meds, whiskey and tea and let COVID at it.... even now in Ireland we have population of almost 5 million. So far from all time data Ireland has 202k cases and 3621 deaths (statistic open as im writing the post). If you put it into perspective, the chance of you getting covid in Ireland is 4.04% and actually dying from the virus IF YOU ARE A COVID CASE is 1.79% and if you are NOT a covid case your chances of surviving covid are 99.92%. And you are telling me Im suppose to take this statistic seriously? im not a gambler, but ill take my fucking chances, because they look pretty good

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexHF View Post
    1)Official tasks of WHO:
    providing international recommendations in the field of health
    setting health standards
    cooperation with national Governments to strengthen national health programmes
    development and transfer of appropriate technologies, information and health standards.

    I consider these opportunities a great achievement of modern civilization.

    2) We didn't have Ebola. Ebola haemorrhagic fever is a severe, often fatal disease in humans. But rare. Outside of Africa, the disease was only found in laboratory accidents. The transmission rate of this disease is low. You need direct contact of your mucous membrane or wound surfaces with the fluids of another person. The disease, of course, is dangerous, the death rate from it is high, but it does not pose a global epidemic threat.

    3)At the beginning of the Covid-19 epidemic, there were many strange and even stupid statements. This is explained very simply, people did not have enough knowledge about the new disease. In order for this knowledge to appear, it took time, and, unfortunately, considerable human sacrifices around the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by AmcoTraD View Post
    there are actual no successes from this organisation. AT ALL. And nothing justifies a waste of 5 000 000 000€ yearly income
    You surprise me, dear Amco! If there are officials (bureaucrat) and a lot of big money, there is bound to have corruption. This cannot be undone, it can only be reduced.

    Quote Originally Posted by AmcoTraD View Post
    it is very naive to trust the WHO...


    This world is not black and white at all, it is filled with colors and shades. The fact that some officials in the WHO are simply stealing the budget does not negate the existence of extremely important functions for this organization.


    Quote Originally Posted by AmcoTraD View Post

    on the other hand i am a shareholer of Bayer, Pfizer and Moderna - as for myself i am sceptic about their stuff

    it doesnt mean i will never take their vaccine, i am just being sceptic
    The main thing is facts and rational thinking. The main thing is facts and rational thinking. There is a disease that poses a threat due to its rather high contagiousness and severe course in many patients. It is dangerous because of its combination of qualities. In the event of an uncontrolled spread of the epidemic can cause very serious damage to the global economy. And I've already done it. If certain measures had not been taken, including unpopular measures of a prohibitive nature, things would have been even worse. and the number of deaths would be many times greater and the damage to the economy would also be much greater. This fact is confirmed by the consensus of epidemiologists in all developed countries. There is a group of vaccines developed by very qualified specialists. These vaccines are able to stop the spread of infection. These vaccines are harmless to the absolute majority of people. This is also a fact confirmed by scientifically based tests. And there is already a confirmed fact that the immunity produced by vector, mRNK, and peptide vaccines is much more stable than that obtained in the case of a previous disease. And yes, I personally admire the technology of matrix vaccines, this is actually not today's day, but tomorrow's day of science.


    Quote Originally Posted by AmcoTraD View Post
    also nobody can tell me about biontechs "random" ipo just 6 months before the pandemy started

    i am getting huge profits from the pandemy so at least for me there is no reason to complain
    BioNTech and Moderna began to develop the technology itself really about 1.5-2 years ago. As a universal platform, suitable for the manufacture of many others vaccines or the treatment of dangerous diseases.
    mainstream media does a good job obviously


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    Libertarians: I don't need the government, human beings are capable of rational thought and action. If everyone was just "free" enough, we'd be living in a utopia.

    Libertarians in a pandemic: The guy on Youtube told me Covid was a hoax and vaccinations are the devil. Also, he has a PhD. And why would he lie? I don't question anything but mainstream media. I'm a healthy 20/30something and so is everyone I know. My friend got it, and he was fine. I extrapolate this anecdotal evidence, because that's how statistics work. I'm an expert on statistics (and medicine) btw, I've seen all the videos (and read Facebook). You wouldn't get it. He's unaware PepeLaugh. Fucking NPCs amirite.




    Ostap, you're an intelligent guy and 10 years ago, I was interested in what you had to say. But brother, you drank the kool-aid, and you're not the first one I've seen devolve like this. They start out as being a sceptic and challenging the fabric of the world, and that's fine, but at one point they stop believing ANYTHING, EVERYTHING is subjective, and there is no truth anymore. Everything is just a big fucking joke to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmcoTraD View Post
    mainstream media does a good job obviously
    good job fixing all these quote tags, I've been trying to do that myself, but then figured that I'm too lazy
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