Things You Never Knew ( And Likely, Never Wanted To )

[Supersniper98]

I was refering to the time he became an actual good player, sometime around 2014 when many of the historical players were still active, so no rust.

Yeah but that doesn't change anything. All the accusations are NOW (and last year) over something that could have or could not have happened (I do not have info, and it is irrelevant) and shortly after which he got busted for cheats with actual proof close to 10 years ago.

This is pure bullshit, Serious Sam is like bicycle, you never forget it. It takes one, two week max for anyone to come back (and play regularly) to recover his prime level.

Even if it's true everyone else has increased their level too, beating Zdzichu in 2014 doesn't mean you can beat him now after 2 weeks of practice.

Zdzichu's aim is all but natural, that's a fact.


I am a competitive player and my goal is to always push the boundaries further. I can see the limits, and I can also see those who're beyond.

Yes I can't prove he is cheating (yet) but I will never trust him. (Neither this BadBoy guy that came from nowhere and had a faster progression than anyone ever had).

I am also a competitive player and those people you accuse are also competitive players, they all strive to be better and specific ones (Zdzichu and BadBoy) put way too much time into it in a very small time window. And just because you have a lot of time overall put into something like SS or CS doesn't mean that you can judge any and all boundaries of human possibilities.
I was thinking the same too, when I was playing and had some basic level, I could see what pro players are doing, but trying to do it just seems impossible against them. I had the honor to play with someone who was top0.2% in KovaaK's aim trainer and I was going from "who the fuck actually needs this you can play the game without that shit lo" to "ok this guy must be cheating", but it's all just training... if he is better than most you have seen doesn't mean it's impossible, just has too much TIME and if you don't have it it's fine! Don't be suspicious for the next 10 years too
And yes since I don't play that game anymore I also suck, I don't think it's a bicycle... actually I think I have always sucked but whatever .D

[Privateer]

if he is better than most you have seen doesn't mean it's impossible, just has too much TIME and if you don't have it it's fine!

Facts. And before you accuse someone, prepare some proof to put on the table. Without that, it's just empty words.

[Supersniper98]

And about the modding part I forgot: It's natural that someone would want to spice the game up a bit after playing it for so long to not get bored, especially when the game offers the option to do it.
It's anyone's subjective opinion how far modding can go, some people are against thirdperson and console commands, others are fine with complete interface rewrites and subtle quality of life enhancements that exist in 99% of other games. But it's not right (at least for me) to assume that he always crosses the barrier to illegal just because he got interested how to.... import custom sounds, or change HUD etc. or because he showed a retarded screenshot of thirdperson 30km behind the playermodel assuming that it's even an advantage and not a handicap. I can see why people can keep it in consideration but it can't be used to justify every single in-game action as suspicious.

[Forsaken]

well I can't say for sure for Zdzichu because too many accidents with him. But BB is clearly not cheating for 100%. Come on Sky I've seen how did he play from the beginning (when he joined Immortals) to the end (right before he dissapeared to nowhere unfortunately) he just was active 24/7 ALWAYS playing this game, either teamgames, duels, just public games. That's how he managed to up his skill level so fast. Look at Pacul also a new player but play a duel with him you maybe will also think he's cheating

It's always strange to see how a completely new player starts to play much more better than you, it doesn't mean they are cheating

[Zeo]

The fact is that people who spent lot of hours for 1 at 1, grew up pretty fast in this game. I remember Lexa or Boyz being an average players in late 2010, and in the next three months they could deservedly be called one of top-10 players.

The saddest fact is that some people who used (or still use ) "something", probably were obsessed so much deep with winning what resulted in having "cheat packs" installed (programmed) sooner or later; undoubtedly they could be still really good without that, but they lost a battle to their ego

Talking about Lexa, we could play at almost the same level even at some 1 at 1s while I almost always hated it and didn't care at training. I never felt he can catch me everywhere unlike some others If you're very experienced player, you always can feel if that's something strange happening. I never had this feeling by playing with Lexa and especially Mike. Frankly speaking, I've been told once about Mike's autoshot in the past, but noone has showed any demos to me.

[Aberration]

I will emit a reserve about Capricornus because I have not played him enough and it's been a long time, it's just that his grenade skills always seemed way beyond anything humanly possible to me.

but how to cheat with nades? pls tell me I wanna have nades like Zdz .d

[Forsaken]

but how to cheat with nades? pls tell me I wanna have nades like Zdz .d

trigger bot... works with each and every weapon

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Facts. And before you accuse someone, prepare some proof to put on the table. Without that, it's just empty words.

empty words filled with cringe.

[Skyward]

trigger bot... works with each and every weapon

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empty words filled with cringe.

trigger/auto shot bot would be useless used for undirect hit projectile, I would rather consider using a wallhack or something like that because prediction would be key to figure out where and when to shoot your grenades, the more you get the information in advance, the better your grenade will be accurate.

I mean PO has been using a different kind of wallhack and it took us so many years to bust him, what if many other players used their home-made whallhack like him?

[Evolta]

trigger/auto shot bot would be useless used for undirect hit projectile, I would rather consider using a wallhack or something like that because prediction would be key to figure out where and when to shoot your grenades, the more you get the information in advance, the better your grenade will be accurate.

I mean PO has been using a different kind of wallhack and it took us so many years to bust him, what if many other players used their home-made whallhack like him?

Shhhhh I told you that in secret

[Aberration]

trigger/auto shot bot would be useless used for undirect hit projectile, I would rather consider using a wallhack or something like that because prediction would be key to figure out where and when to shoot your grenades, the more you get the information in advance, the better your grenade will be accurate.

I mean PO has been using a different kind of wallhack and it took us so many years to bust him, what if many other players used their home-made whallhack like him?

thank you sir. however in quake live the bots are pretty decent with rockets. so it's possible with ai but I dunno if any cheater ever made smth like that. my autoit skills are certainly not enough

[Salker90]

trigger/auto shot bot would be useless used for undirect hit projectile, I would rather consider using a wallhack or something like that because prediction would be key to figure out where and when to shoot your grenades, the more you get the information in advance, the better your grenade will be accurate.

I mean PO has been using a different kind of wallhack and it took us so many years to bust him, what if many other players used their home-made whallhack like him?

Zeb did something similar before , some hack suite called Serious Zeb Bot , after all it was just a more user friendly utility that allowed you to turn wall hack on and off without using cheat engine and some other minor hacks .
Even tho he was almost immediately busted it is worth to mention that even in those years (2007/2008) advanced hacking was a thing in Sam, so it wouldn’t surprise me if pretty much everyone has their own version of wall hack.

Forgot to mention, the wall hack I’m talking about , is not the one that fucks everything around and also can be very confusing due to its way of operating , this one will only show player models (often used along with a texture hack such as full Bright models or such)and allows the cheater to not be forced to observe walls , because he can spot players on sight .

The saddest fact is that some people who used (or still use ) "something", probably were obsessed so much deep with winning what resulted in having "cheat packs" installed (programmed) sooner or later; undoubtedly they could be still really good without that, but they lost a battle to their ego

That’s very true , it is worth to mention that none of these hacks (except aimbot which is super easy to bust) can make a noob pro.
So those who mastered the game have then mastered the hacks they use, even by customizing them to their preferences.. it is a very common thing in any competitive FPS arena..