42Amsterdam.net Dedicated Servers

[SERPENTARI0N]

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naa? Sprach behindert? Lass ma das Kiffen und saufen weg. Lappen!

Sprachbehindert? It's you who's answering in german to english posts

[Skyward]

update 02/03/2025

-server rules-

- Teaming is no longer forbidden, but we still suggest not to do so as we still may regulate it in case it is too unfair in the current situation. This will mostly depend of complaints.

-penalties-

- ban times have been simplifed even more than in the previous update. From now on, the ban times will be given accorded to the time range set to each type of rule breach, from min to max depending the amount and gravity of the violation(s). If you think you've got banned and that the penalty length is not reglementary, please visit this thread.

-admins-

- Administrators will no longer communicate the name of those who give bans. Administrators caught doing so will be warned, then removed if it happens again.
- We remind that for any question regarding a game ban, you should refer to this thread. In a context where admins ended up being judged more than the rule breakers are, admins are absolutely not obligated to justify all their actions publicly.


Ostap is back by the way, not very active but he's been talking a bit again

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Skyward should be there in French parliament creating laws

[Supersniper98]

- Administrators will no longer communicate the name of those who give bans. Administrators caught doing so will be warned, then removed if it happens again.
- We remind that for any question regarding a game ban, you should refer to this thread. In a context where admins ended up being judged more than the rule breakers are, admins are absolutely not obligated to justify all their actions publicly.

Skyward got mad at Milena because she leaks his bans which results in him being ashamed and he doesn't want to justify them
Rules were adjusted to counter those oversights. Smort
Worry not Skyward. We know only you ban in DM in 2025 and we do not need justifications we already know them .)

[Skyward]

Skyward got mad at Milena because she leaks his bans which results in him being ashamed and he doesn't want to justify them
Rules were adjusted to counter those oversights. Smort

I made this adjustment not because of Milena but because of Xever trashtalking me because he got banned on FE, i'm just tired of people asking for who banned them all the time, we don't settle our accounts personally. There is a thread to complain about bans, so use it.

We know only you ban in DM in 2025 and we do not need justifications we already know them .)

You just got an example that i'm not the only one. Though I am also tired that any admin judgement is always put in question by everyone and that everyone is always trying to involve people that might not be relevant anymore. Yes Zeo has caught two major cheaters back then, that made him a reference in terms of investigation, but you all must remember that he is not an administrator of these servers. To continue with Zeo, he doesn't care much about cheats if the player still sucks in game, when it's something like PO or Dre it's a whole different story

You can't judge a player only from what you see in clips, to find cheats you have to put yourself into the players mind to comprehend the way he is playing, the actions he is going to do and why he is doing them. That way you begin to see things non advised eyes cannot see (and seriously it wasn't complicated with dem0n).

I want people to stop complaining in public, lighting shitstorms in hope to break the administrators legitimacy, or use the friendship of influent players to make an administrator move back. As for myself, I don't care about if people know I ban someone or not, but I will no longer respond in public - outside of the thread that is made for it.

[Supersniper98]

I made this adjustment not because of Milena but because of Xever trashtalking me because he got banned on FE, i'm just tired of people asking for who banned them all the time, we don't settle our accounts personally. There is a thread to complain about bans, so use it.



You just got an example that i'm not the only one. Though I am also tired that any admin judgement is always put in question by everyone and that everyone is always trying to involve people that might not be relevant anymore. Yes Zeo has caught two major cheaters back then, that made him a reference in terms of investigation, but you all must remember that he is not an administrator of these servers. To continue with Zeo, he doesn't care much about cheats if the player still sucks in game, when it's something like PO or Dre it's a whole different story

What? Who else banned? There are no new bans, I only saw you

You can't judge a player only from what you see in clips, to find cheats you have to put yourself into the players mind to comprehend the way he is playing, the actions he is going to do and why he is doing them. That way you begin to see things non advised eyes cannot see (and seriously it wasn't complicated with dem0n).

I KNOW. I SEE what he is trying to look at and how stupid he plays, it's not deep. But him still not banned and Zeo chose silence with topic so that it decays over time and people forget. Nice

I want people to stop complaining in public, lighting shitstorms in hope to break the administrators legitimacy, or use the friendship of influent players to make an administrator move back. As for myself, I don't care about if people know I ban someone or not, but I will no longer respond in public - outside of the thread that is made for it.

But it's funny man when you do rage bans on Hole .D no need to be ashamed about them or angry about people judging them
Bans r made to be questioned in public. Why you trying to take away transparency from the people and the ability for them to discuss somefing in public. As long as there are proofes and real reasons, the legitimacy of bans still only remains in the questioned state, there is nothing to hide or dispute. But when you rageban Hole player for "camping" (97% of Hole playerbase doing the same thing), well of course it will be laughed at. Find some better people to ban

[Skyward]

I don't care about people laughing at my hole bans, lava camping has always been disallowed ever since A'dam servers existed, and it's right that way.

"As long as there are proofes and real reasons"

the proof exist, it's the demo. But nearly nodody is truely capable of analyzing them (or is too lazy to do) so what people do? they turn head towards Zeo "hey you caught PO and dre, everyone will listen to you"
This is the problem I have with public debates about bans. People don't watch the demo to make up their mind, they just look at Zeo and expect him to do the work - a work he is not really asked to do.

There are admins, they are affiliated to 42amsterdam to assist players in case of issue, that's not the community's job.

[Supersniper98]

But nearly nodody is truely capable of analyzing them (or is too lazy to do) so what people do? they turn head towards Zeo "hey you caught PO and dre, everyone will listen to you"
This is the problem I have with public debates about bans. People don't watch the demo to make up their mind, they just look at Zeo and expect him to do the work - a work he is not really asked to do.

Well if you ask everyone for opinion everyone ever is cheating or was somewhere. But the renowned ] curator [ Zeo keeps silence here and ignores 90% of listed moments. This community is rigged

[Zeo]

Zeo still hasn't found enough time to rewatch all new demos and Zeo doesn't have as much free time as he had in 2012. It's called being busy at another real life things and nothing more, simple as that. Nowadays I just want to join FFA servers one-two times per a week(s) to have some fun quickly and maybe monthly to organize a TDM to play with people who don't play FFA. I'm really sorry for ignoring Demon's moments Supersniper98, or maybe I could ask you the same about Zdzichu in 10 years when you will have less free time. Ah no you won't also check anything because he already has proved once with real life camera video which "surely" proves a player being a soft-free all the time

Since real tournaments is gone I care much less how people play, I can't deny it. There were too much shit created for this old game, so sometimes it's hard to believe to everyone. I won't turn to paranoic though, I just don't care. And anyway as Black Spirit said 4 years ago: cheaters suck and always will and they know it. And I created threads back in years not because player were strong, I created threads because it always felt megafunny when another so-called "ST King" was a cheater. I always disliked players with high ego and putting them to the shame was the best thing they ever deserved.

[Supersniper98]

Zeo still hasn't found enough time to rewatch all new demos and Zeo doesn't have as much free time as he had in 2012. It's called being busy at another real life things and nothing more, simple as that. Nowadays I just want to join FFA servers one-two times per a week(s) to have some fun quickly and maybe monthly to organize a TDM to play with people who don't play FFA. I'm really sorry for ignoring Demon's moments Supersniper98, or maybe I could ask you the same about Zdzichu in 10 years when you will have less free time. Ah no you won't also check anything because he already has proved once with real life camera video which "surely" proves a player being a soft-free all the time

Zeo busiest man on the planet. You are online much more often than me on this forummes and you dont hev <30 minutes EVER. Whole weekend passed too
Just say you don't want. И правда всем похер на СЕРГЕЯ АЛЕКСАНДРОВИЧА и его наёбов. Но было бы приятно признаться директно. And a video of your hands when playing and doing something you got banned for is better than nothing, ever .)

Ask someone's ghost in 10 years. When you are really ] busy [ in life you don't sit here because there is no need to. or something, idk i'm not and don't plan to be a moderator and anyone busy should not .)

[Hyper_Mask]

I don't care about people laughing at my hole bans, lava camping has always been disallowed ever since A'dam servers existed, and it's right that way.

"As long as there are proofes and real reasons"

the proof exist, it's the demo. But nearly nodody is truely capable of analyzing them (or is too lazy to do) so what people do? they turn head towards Zeo "hey you caught PO and dre, everyone will listen to you"
This is the problem I have with public debates about bans. People don't watch the demo to make up their mind, they just look at Zeo and expect him to do the work - a work he is not really asked to do.

There are admins, they are affiliated to 42amsterdam to assist players in case of issue, that's not the community's job.

Well, of course, everyone will turn to Zeo and "leave" all the work to him, and there are several reasons for this:

- Firstly, of course, it is the fact that the opinion of anyone except Zeo or you is not taken into account, and it can be easily thrown in the trash or forgotten. For example, let's take ME: at the request of one of my clanmates, I took several records, but I sent the most "suspicious" one to you, Zeo, and the rest who are participating in this, and in the end, you and the others said that this is an obvious cheat, Zeo replied that he did not see anything, in the end, nothing changed. And as I understand it, the decision to ban a cheater depends on one person - Zeo.

- Secondly, yes, not many understand this or everyone is too lazy to do something like this, and since Zeo himself takes on this work, there is no need to do anything special, since the experienced Zeo will figure it out.

[Salker90]

Zeo still hasn't found enough time to rewatch all new demos and Zeo doesn't have as much free time as he had in 2012. It's called being busy at another real life things and nothing more, simple as that. Nowadays I just want to join FFA servers one-two times per a week(s) to have some fun quickly and maybe monthly to organize a TDM to play with people who don't play FFA. I'm really sorry for ignoring Demon's moments Supersniper98, or maybe I could ask you the same about Zdzichu in 10 years when you will have less free time. Ah no you won't also check anything because he already has proved once with real life camera video which "surely" proves a player being a soft-free all the time

Since real tournaments is gone I care much less how people play, I can't deny it. There were too much shit created for this old game, so sometimes it's hard to believe to everyone. I won't turn to paranoic though, I just don't care. And anyway as Black Spirit said 4 years ago: cheaters suck and always will and they know it. And I created threads back in years not because player were strong, I created threads because it always felt megafunny when another so-called "ST King" was a cheater. I always disliked players with high ego and putting them to the shame was the best thing they ever deserved.

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